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Ryder Cup Friction: Justin Thomas Vs. The Greens

How Slow Ryder Cup Greens Sparked A JT Controversy — And What It Means For Your Weekend Game

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Dec 02, 2025
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Every Ryder Cup brings storylines, but this year the buzz didn’t come from pairings or pressure—it came from Justin Thomas and the U.S. team clashing with slow, unpredictable greens.

How slow greens broke Team USA — and what it’s doing to your Saturday fourball.

Thomas recently told the No Laying Up podcast, as reported by Golf Digest and others, that Team USA even argued with the Bethpage greens crew over green speeds, believing they weren’t rolling anywhere near what was promised.

Players expected a certain pace. They didn’t get it.

Putts came up short. Tempo broke down. Confidence dipped.

And if elite players lose their edge when green speeds change… you better believe weekend golfers feel it even more.

As someone who studies tour setups and how they affect scoring, I see the same pattern I wrote about when pressure went viral in my piece on Frankie Borrelli’s “internet spotlight” round: conditions plus expectations can flip a round fast.

Here, the quiet villain was simple:

Green speed is the factor that controls everything—from scoring to strategy to a player’s emotional state.

This Ryder Cup made that clearer than ever.


What Slow Greens Teach All Amateurs

Here’s the truth most weekend players overlook:

Most missed putts start as bad assumptions, not bad strokes.

When you think greens will run at a certain speed—but they’re slower or faster—you immediately fall into these traps:

  • Over-hitting or babying early putts

  • Misreading pace, even if the line is perfect

  • Losing trust in your feel

  • Compensating so much that you start three-putting

If JT can be thrown off by unexpected green speeds, the rest of us should take the hint.

This is the same problem I tackle in my guide on how to stop three-putting with pro secrets, where I show that speed control, not stroke style, is usually the real issue.


Why This Story Matters For The Golf Industry

This controversy isn’t just a Ryder Cup moment.

It signals bigger trends:

  • Clubs are moving toward more variable, sustainable maintenance

  • Players want transparent green-speed info

  • Course conditions are turning into a performance metric, not just a backdrop

  • Expectation management is becoming a core skill for modern golfers

For everyday players, that means less “set it and forget it” golf and more adaptation.

In my piece on the mental golf game and enjoyment strategies, I explain how your mindset around uncertainty often matters more than your mechanics—this greens drama is a textbook example.

It also fits a theme I return to often: when you accept that golf will never feel perfectly fair or perfectly predictable, you start to enjoy the game again instead of fighting it.


How This Helps Your Weekend Scores

Let’s get practical. Here’s how you can use the JT episode to play better:

  • Arrive early and test green speeds before teeing off

  • Base your expectations on the first few putts, not what you “think” the course should be

  • Adjust stroke length instead of getting handsy with your wrists

  • Stop obsessing over score on the front nine and focus on dialing in speed

If you need a reset on this, my “score blind” approach in Stop Counting Every Shot (For A While) pairs perfectly with a speed-focused warm-up. Together, they calm your brain and let your feel catch up to the conditions.


The real edge in golf today isn’t buying a new putter or chasing swing tips on social—
It’s having a simple system that lets you:

  • Adjust to any green speed in 10 minutes

  • Keep your putting stroke stable under pressure

  • Protect your confidence even on bad days

  • Walk off 18 knowing you managed what you could control

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If you’re serious about scoring better, the next part gives you:

  • My tour-style process for reading green speeds fast

  • A 3-hole calibration routine you can copy before any round

  • Specific Ryder Cup takeaways you can apply in your Saturday fourball

  • A short checklist to keep on your phone so you don’t guess anymore

This is the kind of blueprint that turns a casual reader into a better golfer.

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